Tip #26: Low Dose Testosterone
Posted: August 26, 2012 Filed under: Advice, Injection Alternatives, TfTM Original Tips | Tags: androgel, injections, low-dose, testosterone, testosterone-cream 9 Comments »| |
For an introduction to Testosterone Hormone Replacement Theraphy (T HRT), see the first part of the series.
Why Take Low Dose?
Hormones are gradual. This can be very frustrating for people who can’t wait for the changes. But some of us approach the idea of hormones with a bit more trepidation, and would rather take things slow.
Some people simply want to take extra precautions with their body. Others may be struggling to figure out what their identity means to them while undertaking a physical transition, thus trying to reconcile the two. Moreover, it’s common to hear of people who want certain effects of hormones but not others, and want to find the right balance. Whether it’s because we’re not sure hormones are right for us, or because we’re not sure what we want out of hormones, or we just want to be extra careful, taking a low dose is a way of testing the waters, toe by toe.
It is actually recommended to start on a low dose, and build your way up to a regular dose. Not only do hormones hit you harder in the first 3 months, this also gives your body (and mind) time to adjust. Remember, puberty doesn’t happen in a day. Other instances in which low dose is recommended is for those who have pre-existing conditions of physical or mental health, such as thyroid disorders or a history of anxiety and depression. While these sorts of conditions do not usually make you ineligible for HRT, it is probably advisable to go low dose, at least at first.
By slowly ramping up the dose, you can be more in control of the changes you experience. Take it as an opportunity to gauge the effects hormones are having on you. Remember, it’s not just the obvious ones you need to look out for, like “am I finally sprouting chin hair?” Hormones have widespread effects on our bodies, and it’s usually the more subtle, invisible changes we should be watching out for, like “how’s my weight gain/loss?” or “am I suddenly feeling more anxious for no reason?”
Options for Low Dose
Injections, gel, cream, and patch can all be taken low dose. (At first I was under the mis-impression that injectable T was not low-dose friendly, but this isn’t the case. However, it is still true that I’d rather avoid needles.)
Notes of Caution
If you take too low of a dose, it does nothing. Women are prescribed T to increase libido, and there is a magic low-enough dose where they don’t see the masculinization effects of it, yet do experience the side effect of increased sex drive. If you’re reading this, you probably want some of those masculinization effects, so be wary of taking too little.
If you take more than a low dose – that is, a regular dose – you might get changes quicker than you expect or want them. This is true whenever your dosage is different than the expected one, whether lower or higher. For the sake of self awareness and peace of mind, it’s simply better to have a good sense of how much T you’re getting, what changes you can expect, and at what pace.
If you take too much – that is, a high dose – it may end up being detrimental. Normally guys attempt to over-dose on T because they want to speed up the process. However, T aromatizes into estrogen, causing the reverse of what you’d want, namely less T and more E. The effects of this can include bloating (water weight), irregular menstrual cycles, weight gain, mood changes, including anxiety and depression, and other health effects, adverse or otherwise. So take a dose of patience instead!
Starting & Stopping T
If you are unsure of taking hormones, or of continuing to take them, you can always stop. Yep, at any time, you can just stop. You can stop because you are having adverse effects, because you need some extra time to think, or because you’ve just had enough. If and when you decide to start again, then you can always start again. It’s most advisable to be as consistent as possible, so starting and stopping often is not ideal, but the options are always open.
Dosages for “Low-Dose”
The dosages for being on a “low” dose of T are, well, lower than the regular dose. This varies widely from person to person, and by method. I’ve gathered some information from articles that lay out testosterone dosage, covered in the Introduction to Testosterone HRT post, and compiled it with various personal accounts of those on a self-reported low dose. Here are some rough estimates (ie, my best guess) on what constitutes a “low dose.”
Injectable
A standard bi-weekly starting dose is 50-80 mg. Some people take a low dose of 30 mg bi-weekly. If I were to pick a dose, I’d choose 40mg or 50mg, just because it’s on the low range, but not the lowest.
A standard weekly starting dose is 25-40 mg. Some have taken 20 mg weekly, which is nearly equivalent to the 40 mg/biweekly.
As you may notice, another important factor to consider is the frequency of the injections. Bi-weekly has been the standard for quite some time, but nowadays more and more people are opting for 10 day or 7 day cycles, so as to avoid spikes.
Gel
Gel is normally applied daily. According to the articles, a regular dose is bewteen 2.5g and 10g per day of 1% gel, with a starting dose at around 2.5g/day.
It has taken me a while to figure this out (see below), so my best guess of a low dose would be anywhere between 2.5g and 7.5g, with the amount T in a 1% gel being 25-75 mg.
Cream Dosage
If you notice, none of the articles specify cream dosage, though some mention it is the same as for gel. That’s what I initially assumed; however, it was a little more complicated than that to decipher…
My guess for a low-dose cream would be between 50 and 75mg. From my experience, I would not go lower than 50 mg, and would call 100 mg a regular dose.
Gel and Cream Dosage, De-mystified
When I opened my package of compounded T cream from Stroheckers, the conundrum I faced was – how much? You see, the cream came in two big tubs, akin to body lotion. My prescription said “2.5mg/g, 5g/day.” The label on the cream said “5% CRM” with instructions to “apply 2 grams (1/2 teaspoonful daily).” Not only was I not sure which dose was accurate (as my doctor usually prescribed injections), I had no clue how much either 2.5mg/g or 5% or 2 grams or even 1/2 teaspoon was!
Dosage for gels and creams is trickier to figure out, because there’s a lot more numbers to crunch. There is the base amount of testosterone the cream has, say 50mg. That’s usually the number you ultimately care about.
The label indicates the amount you apply in grams, and then what % of that is testosterone, or the concentration; a 1% gel contains 10 mg of testosterone per 1 gram of total gel (10 mg/g). (About 10% of those 10 mg is actually absorbed, so the “effective” amount comes down to 1 mg of T (1mg/10mg/g). Since the “effective” absorbed amount is variable, it’s usually ignored.) So going back to the 10mg, if you apply 5 grams of 1% gel daily, you’re getting 50mg of T daily (10mg/g x 5g = 50mg).
Confused? Don’t worry, this tripped me up too. Let’s try and do the math.
My T dosage
My prescription said 2.5mg/g, so if 10mg/g is 1%, this would be a .25% gel. Taken at 5g/day, it would amount to 12.5mg/day (2.5mg/g x 5g). If you consider the standard dose of 5g at 1% = 50mg, a fourth of this would be 5g at 0.25mg = 12.5mg.
But this was for gel; the cream I got has a different concentration, and cream is also absorbed differently. Right now I’ve been taking roughly 1 gram daily of the 5% cream. One gram of 1% cream is 10 mg of T, so 1 gram of 5% is five times as much, or 50 mg. (I’ve recently raised it 1.3g, so at 5% it’s 1,300mg x 0.05 = 65 mg).
(Trust me, it took me quite a while to go back and forth between the articles, my prescription, my current dosage, and my calculator, and even then I’m not entirely sure this is accurate. If it makes anybody feel any better…)
Finally, I met with my now-current physician, who also mentioned one very important thing: above all, try to get the same dose every day. It doesn’t matter if it’s absorbed differently every day, just try to be as consistent as possible. In order to do this, I had to get a small digital scale, and measure out 1 gram every morning. (I zero out the scale with the lid of the cream container, then put some cream on the lid.) Alternatively others have mentioned using a syringe, which also works.
If you do get a gel or a cream, make sure you understand the dosages. Look at how much you’re applying (grams) and multiply that by the concentration (%) to get the amount of T (in mg). And when using cream or gel, don’t forget to wash your hands thoroughly and cover the area with clothing so as not to rub it off on a partner, child, or even pet!
Me on T
If you’re intersted in learning more about my personal journey with hormones, you can read a few articles on my blog. I have yet to give an update on the newest developments; just know that the story doesn’t end there.





This is a great post Maddox. I always appreciate how you emphasize our control in this process in your writing.
Thank you for the details and for thinking through all those ratios (so I don’t have to!). One thing you don’t cover, but I’m guessing you’ve thought about, is given the different absorption rates, do you have a sense of how, say, the dose you designate as “low” for a cream or gel would compare to the low 40mg bi-weekly injectable dose (or 20mg weekly). In other words, have you been able to piece together how the low doses in each delivery method compare to each other in terms of how much your body actually gets?
Thanks! It took me quite a while to work out the math, I’m still not sure I got it all right.
Absorption rate for cream is between 8-15% of whatever you apply, and this varies by individual, where you apply, surface area of application, etc. It’s not something you should be entirely concerned about, since it’s a given no matter how much you put on. I assume for injections since it’s intravenous all or most of it gets absorbed.
It’s not easy to compare since the units are not the same, so I would consider dosages for each delivery method separately.
Also, you can calculate dosage all you want, but your individual reaction (physically and psychologically) to each amount will probably be the biggest variable.
hey any chance you’ve looked into low dose t and hair loss? do you think there might be a threshold below which one could avoid hair liss? im currently on 1 pump of 1.62% gel daily – very low dose, mostly just,for muscle building and some virilization without full masculinization. thanks for you’re thoughts on this!
Hair loss – like most factors – is decided by genetics. It generally starts to occur after a few years on T (about 4-5), and you probably do need an average dose to experience it.
If you are not seeing certain changes like your voice dropping, or your period stopping, then you are indeed on a low enough dose where it probably won’t affect hair loss, especially if you dont’ take T long term. Of course, this is all a semi-educated guess.
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Hi,
I just started T, and I was wondering if you could help me as I try to figure out the right dose for me. I don’t see a lot of writing about the patch, Androderm (and I don’t know how much it differs from Androgel in how it works), and I also have a couple questions about low doses in general. I was prescribed one 2mg patch/24hr, but my provider insists that she wants me on the “real dose” of 4 mg/24hr in three weeks (one month from when I started). Of course I could tell her that I won’t switch (although I already told her that I don’t want to, and she didn’t understand), but I don’t think I will be able to get any further information from her about how lower dosages could work for what I want, since she seems to only believe in there being a “real” dosage level and a “too low” dosage level.
I have two main questions about this. The first is about what a low dose actually can and can’t do. I read that T doesn’t build up in the body over time, and also that natal women can take T at a low enough dose, and they only get the increased libido without the other body changes. So, is it even possible to have a low dose that will cause the same changes as a regular dose, only slower? Or is there a “magic thresh-hold” amount that is necessary for hair, voice, etc. changes, and if you take below that, these changes will not happen at all, whether slowly over time or not? I *do* want the changes, I just want them very slowly, and my provider doesn’t understand this enough to guide me.
My second question is about dosage with the Androderm patch. I’m not sure if this mode of delivery is different enough (from gels and creams) to change dosage recommendations. If it is possible to take a low dose that will cause my voice to change and facial/body hair to grow, only more slowly over time, what kind of dose range would that be, using the Androderm patch? And is there a way to monitor the speed of smaller body changes to check my dose for myself, since my provider isn’t on-board? I’ve only been on a week, and (it seems that) my face has been way more oily than ever before. I didn’t expect anything to change at all so soon.
Thanks so much for your help!
I don’t know anything about the patch, since it is much rarer and there isn’t much research/info out there.
As for low dose in general, there IS a magic threshold where you get just enough T for masculinization, but the changes will be slow. If you don’t pass this threshold, you will see minimal to no changes. However, this threshold is probably different for different people, so it’s important to discover where it is for you, and where YOU are comfortable.
One more thing to keep in mind is that when you start T, it’s like a jolt to your system, so you want to ease in and gradually and increase the dose. As your body gets accustomed to it, this “magic threshold” increases. At least this was my experience when taking the cream, where at some point the max dose just stopped having any effects, even though at first the max dose was way too much for me and I felt awful.
If you have to guess what your sweet spot “low dose” is, half of what your doctor is “instructing” you sounds accurate (after gradually easing into it for a few weeks). I’ve been on half of a “regular” injectable dose and that has been enough for me to continually see changes, but at a pace I’m comfortable with. However, if I had to make another guess, I’d say a patch is much like gel or cream, where after a while the max dose is the least amount you need – ie, it barely crosses “that threshold.”
It’s unfortunate your practitioner isn’t willing to work with you and your goals. Hormones are powerful, but they are nothing to be afraid of. Sometimes we do have to take things into our own hands, especially when the people who are there to help us refuse to do so.
The best advice is listen to your body, and be aware of how you feel. If you see too many changes too fast, take less; if you stop seeing changes, take more. Keep in mind though T accumulates over weeks, so give yourself time to evaluate this.
Hope this helps
~maddox
Thanks for the advice! I appreciate all you do for the community